About auto-stats - Page 4

It's more than just Skills/Items. Bashiok has hinted over and over that there would be additional ways to customize.|||I want control over my stats. Period.

Why should I have 1 pt into vitality or dex or willpower ? Titan barbs don't need anything except Strength and more Strength. |||Quote:








I want control over my stats. Period.

Why should I have 1 pt into vitality or dex or willpower ? Titan barbs don't need anything except Strength and more Strength.




There are already Barbarian skills that make each point in your STR produce more damage .. it is exactly the same effect |||Quote:








There are already Barbarian skills that make each point in your STR produce more damage .. it is exactly the same effect




But why stop there ? If the skills makes STR produce even more damage, then all the more we should be allow to pump strength till we die happy.

Pardon me, but as a player who only plays Full dex Zons or Full Strength barbs I find this very appealing and riding the very razor edge. Sure almost everything (aside from bosses and players) will die in a few hits, but you will die in a few hits as well. Or most cases 1 hit if amped and using a zon. It is called a trade off.|||Quote:








But why stop there ? If the skills makes STR produce even more damage, then all the more we should be allow to pump strength till we die happy.






Giving the players both will produce a broken game .. that's all it's going to do .. balancing a game like that will be as impossible as catching a black cat in a dark room.

This customization of attributes (DPS, attack rating, .. etc etc) has to either be be done through stats or through skills .. they decided skills is the way to go and they have their reasons .. that's all there is to it. |||Quote:








There are already Barbarian skills that make each point in your STR produce more damage .. it is exactly the same effect




No it isn't. A titan barb has little to no life. Your auto stats variant will have quite a bit of life, making the build different.



P.S. Then take out the passives, it's not like they are that interesting anyway...|||Quote:








No it isn't. A titan barb has little to no life. Your auto stats variant will have quite a bit of life, making the build different.




No it doesn't make it a different build, it is still the same build, just more balanced, functional and less broken.




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P.S. Then take out the passives, it's not like they are that interesting anyway...




Passives are here to stay .. i can't believe you just said that .. seriously |||NASE, why are you talking about a Titan Barb? What do D2 builds have to do with D3?|||Because we want it in D3 ? Why can't we have Titan barbs or full dex ranged chars because we choose to ?

Don't give us the balance bullcrap. The balance is already there, the characters ARE fragile since they risk everything else for damage.

Why are builds like titan barbs and full dex zons broken ? Knight_wolf have you even TRIED to use a 500 hp amazon in hell mode ?



"Because it is broken"

Then why is it broken ?

Because in pvp I can one hit the "balanced" guy and he for some reason or another can't 1 hit me ? But oh wait, I have far less hp than he so he should be able to 1 hit me too. If he can't then it is the equation of skill.|||Quote:








No it doesn't make it a different build, it is still the same build, just more balanced, functional and less broken.




The points of the build is unbalance and brokeness.

I'm not saying it a good thing. Yet autostats chance that build. A titan build is meant to die if it can kill fast.


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Passives are here to stay .. i can't believe you just said that .. seriously




You are saying that both manual stats and stats-effect-altering passives is a bad idea because it will brake balance. You chose to eliminate manual stats. I chose to eliminate those passives - certainly when you can replace passives with interesting active/passives skills while manuals are harder to replace with something as interesting.


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NASE, why are you talking about a Titan Barb? What do D2 builds have to do with D3?




The points is that manual stats can make the game better/more customisable. We can prove this by mentioning some diablo II build. We could do the same with wow, guild wars or oblivion. We don't because we don't know those games like we know diablo II, and if we already know them, others certainly won't.

That why we are talking about diablo II builds.