Female Barbarian Should Look Sexy - Page 4

Psyco has a legitimate point in there amongst all the rhetoric, which I completely agree with:

Our ideas of beauty are culturally relative. D3 after all will have a worldwide audience.

teh_Thrasher, a) your sarcasm detector needs retuning, and b) you aren't in a position to call anybody out on flaming.|||what do u mean it needs retuning?


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Ms. Pac-Man on the other hand, her curves are just nom-nom-nom. That's how a sexy female barb should look.




thats clearly sarcasm... if the barbarian looked like Ms PacMan she would be a circle with a slice missing. I.E. it was a sarcastic joke... that u didnt get.

oh and by the way. its sexist to say that a pretty girl cant kick ***. JUST to let you know. (not pointed at anyone in particular)|||Quote:








oh and by the way. its sexist to say that a pretty girl cant kick ***. JUST to let you know. (not pointed at anyone in particular)




That's actually sarcasm too, cause the typical image of most pretty girls is that they are so caring about their beauty that they would cry hysterically over a broken nail or a bruise .... so they are always thought of as not being fit to kick *** .. let alone fight the undead with a 12 inch sword and a gigantic axe ... but the current female barbarians have the right mix of beauty, naturality and power to be an interesting and convincing character.|||we couldn't make the female bard look too sexy.. it would ruin whats the barbarian is about.. now the female wizard.. thats a diff story|||i am in agreeance. i never said that the female barbarian wasnt fitting her role. i just stating that guildwars has a nice female warrior. then psycho jumped on my face.

i wonder how they are going to handle the male/female differences in armor.

lol carpe. i wonder why no one has brought up that pretty girls cant be smart. "why isnt the sorceress wearing glasses!? she can cast spells shes got to be a nerd" /sarcasm|||Quote:








and ulrira i was referring to ur post of would u have sex with the space invaders ship... stupid incredibly.




I already know what you're calling stupid. It's just that it doesn't make any sense for you to call it stupid. It's my point is that it would be stupid for someone to say that about the ship. Are you saying it's stupid for me to say that saying that's stupid?|||The Female WitchDoctor IMO .Looks Hot

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what do u mean it needs retuning?




Because Ulrira's post was just as clearly sarcastic as the Ms Pacman thing, but apparently you missed it |||This thread shouldn't exist. All we've seen of the female Barb is a shaky shot of the model and 1 concept art.

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that was stupid ulrira... seriously.

but uh i cant say i mind attractive characters THEY are what i will be staring at for hours on end... but ive also got to say u wont be able to see ur characters looks very much once u get ur gear on... thats why u cant customize ur character's appearance. no real need when u get down too it.

and btw thats just one person's concept art im sure if u had some other person draw u a concept with a more flattering picture of a female barbarian u may say u like that too.

guildwars did a fine job with their female warriors. they were slim and yet muscular and u could make them pretty depending on how u customized the face... not many ppl choose ugly over pretty.|||Quote:








that was stupid ulrira... seriously.




Would you elaborate?|||Quote:








Would you elaborate?




Ignore him Ulrira, I thought it was funny |||Quote:








... not many ppl choose ugly over pretty.




sooo you're view of beauty is a slim girl with huge tit...i see,really classy,so if you are a skinny twirp or fat irl you basicly said your ugly as hell cause people dont really find a skinny or a fat nerd attractive also...try telling this to a girl im sure you will be really popular teh_Thrasher...more so with that kind of intelligence

dont you realise how sexist and stupid what you just said was with just these few word?

and fyi beauty is actually in the eye of the beholder...just look as asian culture were guy now look like girl because of the fashion and way there homosexuality augmented a ton also,thats basicly why guy are efiminate in asian game now and even before that...sephiroth and cloud werent muscle freak and they still looked good and cool at the same time

The reality of american and some european wanting only big breast slim girl is seriously sad...moreso when the majority of american are fat as hell as a people...this world is ruled by stupidity

the last word il say is what i say earlier

beauty is actually in the eye of the beholder-put diversity in..not just "plastic" char|||Quote:








sooo you're view of beauty is a slim girl with huge tit...i see,really classy,so if you are a skinny twirp or fat irl you basicly said your ugly as hell cause people dont really find a skinny or a fat nerd attractive also...try telling this to a girl im sure you will be really popular teh_Thrasher...more so with that kind of intelligence

dont you realise how sexist and stupid what you just said was with just these few word?

and fyi beauty is actually in the eye of the beholder...just look as asian culture were guy now look like girl because of the fashion and way there homosexuality augmented a ton also,thats basicly why guy are efiminate in asian game now and even before that...sephiroth and cloud werent muscle freak and they still looked good and cool at the same time

The reality of american and some european wanting only big breast slim girl is seriously sad...moreso when the majority of american are fat as hell as a people...this world is ruled by stupidity

the last word il say is what i say earlier

beauty is actually in the eye of the beholder-put diversity in..not just "plastic" char




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I don't see why it matters. It's not automatically hard to look at something just because you wouldn't have sex with it. You don't play Space Invaders and go, "Y'know, I really don't think I'd like to nail that little tank thing down there at the bottom. I think I'm going to stop playing this game. "




Ms. Pac-Man on the other hand, her curves are just nom-nom-nom. That's how a sexy female barb should look.|||Quote:








Ms. Pac-Man on the other hand, her curves are just nom-nom-nom.




YES!

Yknow, I think you've just solved the problem of the mystery class. A Ms. Pacman class would totally pwn. With bite attacks, and, ummmm... she could fling her little pink bow for massive ranged damage!|||Quote:








YES!

Yknow, I think you've just solved the problem of the mystery class. A Ms. Pacman class would totally pwn. With bite attacks, and, ummmm... she could fling her little pink bow for massive ranged damage!




Wouldn't work. She'd take extra damage from Undead.|||Psycho, you should start to tone down your posts a tad.

Personally, I want a killing machine, not a beauty queen. My first female barbarian will wield the biggest, smashingest, nastiest, filthiest, heaviest freaking weapon I find, and she will DOMINATE with it. What do Barb's do when they're mad? They smash things! Do they fix their hair - well, only if it's in their eyes, which inhibits their killing of things.

Me want more dead, not loverboy zombies trying to show off how handsome they used to be to my Barb.|||actually retard pscho, i said nothing about tits. or about overly pretty girls learn to read dumb**** before u flame.

i said guildwars had a balance of customization to make your character pretty by just changing the face because the body was set to a certain type already that was balanced.

so why dont u be less of an *** trying to stick up for women IN A GAME!!!!... ***

and ulrira i was referring to ur post of would u have sex with the space invaders ship... stupid incredibly. same with the following ms pacman one... but that one had lots of sarcasm so i wont say anything.

oh yeah psycho... ur an idiot.

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Agree ^_^







That's a cool screenshot, I don't think I've seen it before. Where'd you get it? You're right, her physique in the inventory window looks more feminine than her concept art would lead us to believe. I think she looks great. And is that an eyepatch? I think that's a nice touch.


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AtomicJ, the male wizard is in one of the Concept Arts on the d3 site.




Yeah, I saw that. But since it's concept art, I didn't really feel that it was set in stone. I agree, though. I think they'll probably make the male version East Asian as well, so that's cool.|||the Barb female is fine god im tired of these retard that play female all the time cause they either arent confortable being man or are the type that jackoff to a videogame character /rolleye

seriously im seriously tired of stereotype like that in all videogame that you can play a girl char...warrior female can be pretty yeah but if you are a WARRIOR...you need to actually train and know how to fight which then build your body in different way just look at the amazone that had wide hip that were almost unatural...female that fight in any army need some muscle

muscle dont render someone pretty or ugly unless you bodybuild which make you ugly fast if you go to far wether you're a guy or a girl...also muscle dont define beauty...you can have muscle and be pretty and not have some and still be pretty

the only thing i would change in her apperance is add more tatoo on her skin like the male barbarian one...other then this she is fine

p.s thats comment like that that prove women still have no right and are there to be pretty and you know what...i wish some had enought brain to fight this kind of thing instead of following the way of fashion(basicly what they tell them what is hot and whats not)...il stop there or il go BESERK!!!:P|||Lets keep the sexual undercurrent to a minimum Blizz.

There are plenty of sites out there (apparently) catering to every taste. We dont need it in D3. I'm more concerned about whether my character can kill rather than 'does she looks like she just stepped out of the salon' or if she could grace the centre spread of certain gentleman's literature.|||^^^ Is it too much to ask for both? Lol.|||Quote:








^^^ Is it too much to ask for both? Lol.




Rather not needed, she looks just fine in-game, even way better than the concept art .. and she looks exactly like how anyone would imagine a barbarian woman would look like ... she is just fine people. |||Quote:








Yeah, I saw that. But since it's concept art, I didn't really feel that it was set in stone. I agree, though. I think they'll probably make the male version East Asian as well, so that's cool.




I've seen a screenshot of the class select screen from Blizzcon. The Male Wizard was there, just greyed out like a ghost to indicate he wasn't playable. I wish I could find it again.|||Wow... just wow...

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I've seen a screenshot of the class select screen from Blizzcon. The Male Wizard was there, just greyed out like a ghost to indicate he wasn't playable. I wish I could find it again.




Yeah, I saw those pics too. He does look a lot like the concept art (though it's still a little hard to tell, he's pretty transparent). Anyway, from what I saw he looks cool!

Bashiok asked them to pull those shots down for now, as Blizzard didn't allow pics of the UI and such at Blizzcon.|||Quote:








I think the female barbarian should look sexy much like how they look on other rpgs. Females and testosterone don't mix.

Hell. You'll be looking at the character most of the time so it should be at least pleasing to look at much like how the female witchdoctor isn't made into a withered old hag.




Wtf are you talking about? Go play FRP games where fashion girls wave their axes 20 times heavier than themselves. It doesn't mean just because she is a female that she does not need muscles to fight like Barbarian. If you don't like how she looks then ask Blizzard to make a special class for you, something like Barbarian female nurse or dancer that needs no muscles, so when we come back from the battle and while we drink our potions in tha tavern, you start dancing in front of us with hot Barbarian chick... and to make purpose for such a stupid sight, it can give us +1 to strength for the next 5 mins of battle...|||Quote:








I think the female barbarian should look sexy much like how they look on other rpgs. Females and testosterone don't mix.

Hell. You'll be looking at the character most of the time so it should be at least pleasing to look at much like how the female witchdoctor isn't made into a withered old hag.




I don't see why it matters. It's not automatically hard to look at something just because you wouldn't have sex with it. You don't play Space Invaders and go, "Y'know, I really don't think I'd like to nail that little tank thing down there at the bottom. I think I'm going to stop playing this game. "

Female Barbarian Should Look Sexy

I think the female barbarian should look sexy much like how they look on other rpgs. Females and testosterone don't mix.

Hell. You'll be looking at the character most of the time so it should be at least pleasing to look at much like how the female witchdoctor isn't made into a withered old hag.|||Leaving aside the issue of you assuming your personal taste is the universal arbitrator of what's sexy... wouldn't it be rather ridiculous for the female Barb to look like a slender little vixen, and then unleash those massive, bass-rumbling attacks? The movies don't do the power of the animations justice. Playing the Barbarian is like driving a bulldozer. The character has to match the skills, or the illusion is broken. And some Playboy bunny executing war cries and ripping the ground open with the visceral, crushing power of the Barbarian would be absurd.

Slender and lithe works for the F wizard and WD, and it'll be interesting to see how the M and F versions of the unannounced chars pan out. I can see a female Paladin type char being roughly the size of the amazon. And if the other is a ranger type that's almost reusing the rogue.

Besides, the Female Barb isn't exactly a troll, judging from the concept art and screens we've seen thus far. If you can't handle a woman with a little muscle, that's more about you than about whether she's sexy or not.

|||I dig the female barb. as long as she takes care of those feet. I can't stand gross feet.|||Just give her bigger boobs... Seems the be the industry's conventional route to make their female characters more appealing to their male audience.

..... can't say I disapprove though |||Well said Flux

I'm all for sexual exploitation so long as it's gender-symmetrical. So if the female barb gets bigger boobs, I want a definite loincloth bulge on my male barb

I will say I'm happy that he swans around with naked thighs. Men in miniskirts FTW!

Edit: It's the witch doctor that has the worst gender discrepancy IMO. At least in the concept art I've seen, he's twisted and bent and looks old, while she's upright and young. I don't get that Though they're both pretty ripped.



|||I don't care about the different discrepencies between the genders. In the Doc's case, I think both the female and male look like Witch Doctors, so that's good enough for me. I only hope Blizzard makes the male/female versions stay the same race (I think they will). In other words, it would bug me if the male version of the Wiz turned out to be something other than East Asian. My 2 cents.

And as for the female Barb, I'd hit it. Because of the Barb's lifestyle, it makes sense that she'd be built for brute strength.|||Quote:








And as for the female Barb, I'd hit it. Because of the Barb's lifestyle, it makes sense that she'd be built for brute strength.






Agree ^_^


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I only hope Blizzard makes the male/female versions stay the same race (I think they will). In other words, it would bug me if the male version of the Wiz turned out to be something other than East Asian. My 2 cents.




He does look like an Eastern Asian .... specially the hair and the tiny beard.




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I think the female barbarian should look sexy much like how they look on other rpgs. Females and testosterone don't mix.

Hell. You'll be looking at the character most of the time so it should be at least pleasing to look at much like how the female witchdoctor isn't made into a withered old hag.




And neither is the female barbarian an old hag ... she is just a strong woman which fits perfectly with the title "Barbarian" ... you can't expect a barbarian woman to go to a body-care center or be skinny anorexic babe ... She is just fine.

And don't spread non-sense information .. yes testosterone makes growing muscles easier and makes it bulky but estrogen filled women can have defined muscles too with harsh training and workouts.

Fact is ... an adult human male body produces about forty to sixty times more testosterone than an adult female body, but females are, from a behavioral perspective (rather than from an anatomical or biological perspective), more sensitive to the hormone. ---> from Wikipedia

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Actually i find the in-game model prettier than the concept art.



Can we now move on to a more meaningful subject |||more meaningful then... drat... no circumventing the autocensor... I can't complete this post |||Oh nice! I love the witch doctors female concept art.

I was going to stay away from the old contorted fart, but if I can play with the dark arts while using a straight standing younger female model, then perhaps this class deserves a second look. I'm a necro fan at heart. |||AtomicJ, the male wizard is in one of the Concept Arts on the d3 site.

trap/monster idea

I think a cool trap would be an anti magic zone which makes spells unusable. Possibly with archers inside it. Watch out wiz!!|||Very cool and how creative, if you're playng single you're dead, if you're in a party or diferent caracter than wiz, you couldn't care less, briliant...|||if u wanted to be really hardcore make it so it negates ALL magic including items ... !!!!|||It's you're idea, i just showed how one sided it was, in my opinion frost nova "trap" from Barb/Doc trailer was better.|||Yeah, no trap should make a class completely useless.|||Hmmm... Why not? Taking it as a trap with a counter of a few or up to 20 seconds it would definitivly increase tension to the fights. But then I would add other, similar traps, which would (for example) take away the barbarians will to fight (aka rage) ...

K!A.o.S.

camera options

Crazy I know. It just popped in my head, what d3 would be like in third or first person. Would probably look nuts.|||i believe this link would help you.... http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

oh, you might wonna to click on play "gameplay movie" or what ever |||I think not. Diablo needs to remain the isometric perspective, as always. It's awesome.|||no, isometric all the way, it's part of his charm|||That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.|||Either the OP has been living in a cave ... or he is a troll ... or both .. lols XD

All Diablo fans and the Devs agree that the isometric view is part of what makes the Diablo experience what it is.|||Technically, D3 will not be isometric, since that implies a lack of perspective, whereas there is perspective in D3 (you can see in this screen for instance that the bridge looks narrower at the far end than at the near end, due to perspective). I'd call it what D3 has a 3/4 top down view. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometric_projection .

And D3 DOES have a third-person camera. That just means the camera does not take the viewpoint of the player's char. What it doesn't have is an over-the-shoulder camera.

As for the reasons, any game where you have hordes of critters coming at you from all sides (or where you control more than one char) is going to be VERY hard to play with a close camera, whether first or third person. That to me is what matters here, not any idea of "diabloness". Any other type of camera would get you pwned in short order.|||I never said it was a good idea. Just said it would be insane to play like that.|||Quote:








I never said it was a good idea. Just said it would be insane to play like that.




Yes, yes it would

I will say it would be fun to have the option... not for playing, but for screenshots, machinima and the like.

Respec System - Page 10

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I gotta be honest... when people start talking against respecing, bringing up such points as "It encourages Cheating/Exploiting." I just have to ask, what exploiting and cheating? I have no idea what you're even talking about when you bring this kind of point up as I've never experienced any kind of cheating or exploitation out of the multiple games that already have a respec system in it at all.




Take Titanquest for an example. There it was very viable to put all the points into a low-lvl-skill, even if you wouldn't use it later on, and then respec the points put there to the highlvl-skill one finally wanted to use. Ok... that way the game has become really accessible to anyone from the start up, but the longtermplayability suffers a lot, as does the need to preplan your characters.

As I've said before, the only respec I would like to see is fixation of the last set skillpoint with setting the next one, thus only taking out the "oooops - misclicked"-effect, although I have to admit that limited respec after balancechanging patches wouldn't be such a bad idea...|||Quote:








As I've said before, the only respec I would like to see is fixation of the last set skillpoint with setting the next one, thus only taking out the "oooops - misclicked"-effect, although I have to admit that limited respec after balancechanging patches wouldn't be such a bad idea...




That's mostly what I would like to see: the ability to fix a small mistake. I wouldn't mind being able to mess around with a skill for a level or two and then respec it into something else, but then again, I wouldn't mind having no respecs at all.|||Quote:








Take Titanquest for an example. There it was very viable to put all the points into a low-lvl-skill, even if you wouldn't use it later on, and then respec the points put there to the highlvl-skill one finally wanted to use. Ok... that way the game has become really accessible to anyone from the start up, but the longtermplayability suffers a lot, as does the need to preplan your characters.






Well... in this example it's not a failing of the respec system, it's a failing of the skill system on a whole. If you have abilities at the low level that aren't useful in the endgame, then the skill system is at fault, not the respec system. In fact, the respec system is the only thing that's keeping that horrible skill system from being unbearable, and turning it into being managable.

And I don't see the removal of needing to preplan every single point for your character as a bad thing. I'm not a caculation machine. I am not a robot. I am capable of changing my mind, or just wanting to change my entire character, for fun. Why should I be prevented to do that? Why can't I experiment with a build that people THINK sucks, but might not?

Straight up, I think if Diablo 3 doesn't have an open respec system, it's probably going to crash and burn. Why would anyone actually play it when diablo 2 is just as limiting and cheaper to buy?|||I posted a long thing about respec possibilities in my thread, "Grug's Thing a Day" in the suggestions section.|||Respecs are fine as long it gets more expensive (gold cost) and punishing (deduction of xp, but you don't delevel, just that you need to earn more xp than usual to level) over the long run. Simply put early respecs at low levels (lowbies level fast anyway) allow for mistake fixing. That is fine really, but at high levels it should not be so accessible.

For example you are already lvl70, you SHOULD be knowing what you are doing amirite ?

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Well... in this example it's not a failing of the respec system, it's a failing of the skill system on a whole. If you have abilities at the low level that aren't useful in the endgame, then the skill system is at fault, not the respec system. In fact, the respec system is the only thing that's keeping that horrible skill system from being unbearable, and turning it into being managable.




I've been against full respecs, but I think you've actually changed my mind about this. All the arguments against them are to combat flaws in other systems, not the (in)ability to respec.

-People only respecing existing characters instead of making new ones: This means the early game is boring.

-People changing skills because low level ones suck: Why must low level skills suck? Make them different, not worse.

-Respecing to get around problems: Who's honestly going to rearrange their entire skill setup for every enemy they fight? For PVP games, you could even have a "no respec" option at game creation.|||Quote:








-Respecing to get around problems: Who's honestly going to rearrange their entire skill setup for every enemy they fight? For PVP games, you could even have a "no respec" option at game creation.




Well and as far as PvP is concerned, if they make it similar to the way Diablo 2 did it, why can't they have it be "No Respecs While Hostile"? Doesn't that solve that problem right there?|||Quote:








Well and as far as PvP is concerned, if they make it similar to the way Diablo 2 did it, why can't they have it be "No Respecs While Hostile"? Doesn't that solve that problem right there?




...yeah, pretty much. I don't always think that well.|||I haven't read all ten pages so far, so I'm sorry if this was mentioned.

I think there should be two key parts to a respec system.

1. I really like the idea of having a last point respec for "oops" moments. (Can anyone really argue against this?)

2. Make a full respec option on a timer (so it doesn't accumulate) say (1-4 weeks) per CD Key.

My pet peeve from D2 was with Barbs and their weapon spec. How do you know which good weapon is going to drop? Once you went one way there was no way going back. Perhaps having a limited respec, like only in one tree might help.